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Here are a few comments people have placed on the petition to the Ada County Commissioners. They're too good not to share:
 
See also: Opinion Pieces
 
"This haphazard growth must end! When your constituents are asked why they moved to Boise, one of the most frequent answers is "Quality of Life." When they are asked to define Quality of Life one of the top things is the close proximity to the recreation in the Foothills. As the City of Boise discovered people do not take kindly to the Foothills be ripped apart for development. Please stop this now!!! Your constituents are speaking loud and clear. It is now your job as our elected officials to listen to us."
 
"In your capacity as Commissioners, how do you want to be remembered, for goodness sakes? If you believe housing developments must be built in the Dry Creek Valley area, why are you encouraging developments that are higher-high-density? Surely you understand the resultant impact of such development on current residents and environs, so why are you choosing to be a large part of the current problem?"
 
"We must take a stand on quality of life issues for the generations to follow. Urban sprawl and greed can be controlled. The Meridian schools can't keep up and parents don't understand why. The entire area where I live extended sewer and the schools are over capacity consistently. I have friends whose school boundaries have changed 3 times already in elementary in Meridian! The highway department is exploding and no foreplanning is happening. Let's learn from other cities and remember all these developments mean cars. cars and more cars without public transportation! Lets put the cart before the horse and consider IMPACT in all areas including the animals! Thank you."
 
"Please get a handle on the exploding growth in the foothills area. I have never known of a developer being denied his desired density, but it's really not your purview to make sure his development is profitable. If they cannot make a profit without these enormous densities, they have to make a decision--just as any other business does with regard to profitability. The current taxpayers should not be subsidizing these developments."
 
"It appears the commissioners are attempting to create a California environment here in Idaho. People come to this state because of the quality of life, nothing more. Once you have destroyed that quality of life, what will hold Idaho together during the recessionary periods? I own two ten acre parcels up dry creek which I anticipated building on due to the rural environment which exists in that area. Once you have destroyed that environment, will you then agree that I can subdivide my parcels so I can sell them off, since they will be totally worthless for the purpose I originally purchased them for? Where is all this going? If you folks don't put some common sense into this whole development process and do what it takes to maintain the rural environment, there is not one of you who will retain their positions. There is getting to be such a groundswell of resentment to what you are doing, it is very apparent you are not enforcing the will of the people. According to the way I read state law, you and every other planning and zoning commission have the responsibility to ensure that the development you approve has no substantial detrimental affect on surrounding property owners. Are you accomplishing that? I don't think so, and I don't think the courts will see it that way either. You know because of the way you are approaching development, and the decisions being handed down by liberal judges, there is a groundswell movement for every state to adopt the same kind of accountability laws that were enacted in North Dakota recently. People are fed up with the inept decisions being made by people who should be representing them."
 
"I'm writing as a concerned citizen of Idaho. Please, please, please do not let the developers of the 21st Century take away the beauty and intrinsic value of the Boise Foothills. Many people live in Boise and the surrounding cities and make blue collar wages (at best). One of the few compensations is the serenity of the foothills within easy reach. Please do not let it be destroyed. Also, the animals that reside there need that ground for winter grazing. Plus, I can not imagine the horrific traffic issues and water issues that will result if any of the proposed plans go through. These hills are used by people from a wide range of interests. Horse-back riders, hikers, bikers are just a few of the groups who use and appreciate these areas. Please do not through them away. We do not want to become the next L.A."
 
"The problem with this state is that any zoning or planning has been haphazard and based upon lining investor's pockets. They have allowed urban sprawl to create havoc with urban use, natural areas, agriculture, roadways and the list goes on. Urban growth needs to be contained within a reasonable distance from the hub of the city, and the remaining area needs to be reserved for exclusive farm use or reserved as natural areas."
 
"Two of our commissioners have had my votes and support in their campaigns and businesses for years. It is my hope that these people are truly in office to protect the people of this area, and the area itself. The greatest part about Eagle, to me, is that it still holds a small town feel ... which we are slowly loosing. I can't imagine that anyone who has been a longtime citizen of Eagle would want that to change. For obvious reasons ($cha-ching)I can understand the developers point of view. But I have grown up in this area, I have seen the small herd of antelope run down Brookside Lane (this spring!), I appreciate the Great Horned Owls and Hawks, and I am very fond of finding fresh deer tracks in the mornings. PLEASE protect our wonderful area from this development. Thank You."
 
"I strongly agree that the planning department needs to start being more responsible. Though the developers may be in compliance with whatever codes may be in place for that area and own the land, we are losing our wildlife habitat and I would think that Planning and Zoning should recognize that and take steps to ensure that this doesn't happen. If they can't justify stopping this development for the sake of nature, the traffic congestion and flooding problems (that certain areas experienced this spring) should be enough of a deterrent."
 
"Please, please listen to what we asking you. I have watched Eagle grow from 3000 to its present disaster. My children's schools are abysmal, the traffic becoming increasing intolerable. This is not progress- this is greed. What this valley had is gone-there needs to be a two year moratorium on growth- take time to think and rethink what you are creating, instead of providing a green light to each and every whim of the developers. How about a developer that lives here for starters? Right here- one in Dry Creek, so they can reap what is sown. This certainly is not what Mr. Jeker would have wanted or envisioned."
 
"Growth can be expected. Managing it properly is your job. This proposal is for a high-density development which is better suited to desert development - not foothills. Such high-density living is only appropriate when there are adequate SERVICES for the people there. Otherwise we clog the roads & create an unlivable environment. The proposed Avimor Development is just north of Dry Creek and that will add many residents (and hopefully many services as well?) Please, no high density. Keep open spaces for the wildlife as well."
 
"The integrity of our comprehensive plan is as stake here. Unfortunately, the planned community ordinance allows mega-developers to bring out of state money and out of state interests to our area without ANY regard for responsible growth. I understand that Dry Creek will be developed, but you as the commission are charged with the responsibility of protecting it and making sure that that the requirements of ACO 621 are actually followed. I mention this because Hidden Springs has fallen short of promises made without consequence. When traffic, air, water, wildlife, recreational, and esthetic concerns are considered, the plan soon to be proposed by Dry Creek Ranch falls short on all accounts. The idea behind 621 is to force all mega developers who come here to be responsible. Unfortunately, there has been very little enforcement by you once ground is broken. I will not stand for this any longer. I do understand that developers do have the right to develop privately held lands so long as they follow 621. I also understand that you have failed in many ways to enforce restrictions. I invite you to come out to Dry Creek to experience its serenity and truly unique beauty before you blindly sign its death warrant."
 
"We are totally opposed to big, out of state developments in Eagle and other outlying areas of Boise City. It is time for building moratoriums before we overbuild and existing houses remain unable to sell."
 
"Turning left onto SH 55 is already dangerous, I can only imagine the scenario with Dry Creek Ranch and Avimor in place! The traffic headed North towards McCall is more than enough of an impact on this area without adding 10,000+ trips/day. "
 
"Is there any consideration on how Julius Jeker had wanted his land to be preserved. I had spoken to Julius for years on how he had hoped his land would be preserved when he was gone. I disagree with these plans not only because we live here and enjoy all of the many things Dry Creek Valley has to offer, but hate to have Julius wishes not considered. It's really hard to say all the things that one needs to say after all this years. I hope the developer does not completely rape the land and wildlife of all it's natural beauty "
 
"When I think of people who have done wonderful things for Idaho in general, and the Boise area in particular, I tend to think of the things that have been set aside for future generations. Ann Morrison and Julia Davis Parks are prime examples. Please leave a legacy for future residents of Idaho to admire. Protect the Boise foothills and deny the application for this development."
 
"The density of this plan is not only insane, but relies on a lot of assumptions about the surrounding areas and services. Things like expanding Hwy 55, improving roads, building new schools, equipping local police/fire/ambulance should, at a minimum, be a cost of the developer. Eagle doesn't even have its own ... they are extended from Boise. Do you think Boise or Eagle are going to provide these? Is the Meridian School District going to have the funds to staff these new schools? How is Eagle supposed to incorporate a community that is at least 4X its own population? I just can't believe this is even being considered."
 
"This massive development will adversely affect everyone in the entire valley. The traffic issues on Highway 55 and State Street alone call for a reduction in density. All of us will end up paying higher taxes and fees to provide the needed services for this development. The area voters have already indicated their frustration with the unchecked development and increased taxes these developments bring."
 
"I am opposed to the high density building that is planned for the Dry Creek area. Right now there are animals and plants in the area that we will lose because of the building. Since moving out here in 1977 we have seen everything from bears, deer, foxes to rabbits and snakes. These are part of a habitat that will be destroyed by the building. Also some of the building is planned for areas that although may not have seen flooding in recent years have had severe flooding in the past (i am talking about the draws where water collects and floods down through in severely wet years - springs)."
 
"I grew up in the Dry Creek area with my family...who have lived on Brookside Lane since 1942!  In fact, I am the one who named the road from a contest that Eagle Jr. High had way back when?? I chose it for the old one-room schoolhouse that was in that area...and one that three of my older brothers actually attended. I have many cherished childhood memories of growing up in this wonderful area and feel so saddened to learn of what is proposed in the years to come. I work for the Meridian School District so I well know the impact this huge development will have on schools, highways, water, etc. So--I am NOT in favor of this whole package----it has many areas that have yet to be addressed and concerns me and my loved ones who still live on Brookside Lane and Highway #55--Please review these issues before proceeding--I am but a small voice--"
 
"It is past time to put a moratorium on massive planned communities and developments in both the valley and the foothills. Developers have run roughshod over this area for too long and have been allowed to do almost anything they want, no matter the impact on existing residents and the land and resources. Nothing is unlimited here and we will all suffer in the future for the short-sightedness and poor (or non-existent) planning involved in this uncontrolled building. I work in the construction industry and am by no means opposed to all development, but I am also a Boise native and have watched too much of this beautiful place be permanently destroyed by the greed of these out of town developers. Now is the time to stop, before it is too late to make any difference. We can have sensible and controlled development that works for everyone, but officials such as yourselves must take a stand and defend the Treasure Valley as we know it."
 
"I run in the foothills, and I appreciate the trails and access provided by the City of Boise. I think that the country should adopt the same philosophy towards open space and make the same sort of financial commitment to open space that the City of Boise has. We need to be good stewards of the land. This development does not represent good stewardship.
 
"I will not vote for any Commissioner who would give their blessing to such a development."
 
"Why not enact a land swap with more suitable development acreage, where the issues of traffic, water and ecosystem destruction will have less of an impact? According to national figures, developments such as this proposed high-density development are actually a drain on county resources when calculating all costs to the taxpayers-police, fire, schools, water, sewage, roads, infrastructure, etc. The effects of the huge increase on water run-off (due to such a concentrated area of rooftops, concrete and blacktop) and tampering with the existing creek and tributaries will also elevate the risk of flooding for downstream communities."
 
"Just a note that I've driven hay truck on the Jeker property and ridden horses. Once open space is gone, it never comes back. You can't say "Oops, we wish we had kept it. "Development and growth is not a bad thing; rampant development and growth is. Keep Idaho Great!
 
"Open Space is needed in this area. We need to draw the line a some point. Its already to late to controll the problems along Eagle Road. I would like to live here for the rest of my life and don't want our beautiful habitat to become a reason to move on to the next town. Look at Portland for example. They are doing better then anyone in the country because they do whats right for the future, NOW. Lets stop making the same mistakes over and over again. Lets learn from them and move in the right direction.
 
"Growth is inevitable, but needs to be managed in order to balance the fragile eco-system that exists in the area. The proposed density of the project will tax the county resources. "
 
"As a native Idahoan, I wish that you would consider the impact on the tax payers of this county. Who will pay for the schools? What happens when we go into another recession? If a development like this was allowed, it should have mandatory mass transportation which we do not have. Who will pay for the schools and roads?? What about the wild life??"
 
"I oppose the existing plan for Dry Creek Ranch. I urge you to hold the land owners and developers responsible to develop this parcel in a manner that's respectful of the Treasure Valley community, the land, and the wildlife currently living there. Their proposed high density plan is disrespectful to all of the above. Please hold these developers to the same high standards the other developers in the area have been held (Hidden Springs, Cartwright Ranch, Cimarron Springs, Currant Creek, Red Hawk). The Treasure Valley community trusts you'll understand the negative impact a development of this size and density will have on the foothills and our overall community. I urge you to deny their proposed plan. Thank you for your consideration."
 
"The landscape of the foothills, coupled with the meandering river, is what makes Boise such a fantastic place to live. I understand that progress is necessary and don't oppose it if it is done with careful planning and consideration. However, it appears that Dry Creek Ranch seeks to merely maximize home density and profit at the irreversible expense of maintaining the quality of the surrounding foothills and its neighboring communities. I ask today that the excessive density of Dry Creek Ranch be re-evaluated to maintain the beauty of the foothills, the wildlife that inhabits them, and the neighbors who enjoy them. Thank you."
 
"Dear Commissioners: From my perspective, these types of developments are being allowed but roads are not being kept up to handle the additional stress. In my neighborhood Ustick and Meridian roads, there are developments going all over the area. There are lines of cars for miles every day at the 4-way stops, angry folks trying to get home. The roads are clearly overloaded and it seems as though nobody is paying attention. Planned communities are just that...planned for the little community they are putting it -- but where is the planning for the roads that support these communities? Thank you!"
 
"I am a native Idahoan and I am disgusted at the lack of common sense that is being put in to all of the building. You are destroying exactly what makes this place special. Pretty soon, the Treasure Valley is going to look like every other huge Metropolis!. Please stop this now, while our children still have open spaces to see!!"
 
"Too many people in this area, the traffic is outrageous, people that live in eagle are paying for others to develop. That wasn't the case 10 years ago."
 
" We're very concerned about future flooding of Dry Creek. Our neighborhood was flooded this year. We're hoping our representatives will see the importance of preserving our wildlife by limiting development in the foothills. Once it's gone it's gone, and so is the reason that we and many others live here."
 
"This is a bad idea. Each time a new development goes in, nothing is done to alleviate traffic. This valley will soon be a clogged mess if development continues unchecked."
 
"Traffic and who is going to pay for the road system that will be required to handle this project as well as all the others that flow into State Street, Gary Lane. Hill road etc."
 
"Recent reports in the local media have detailed concerns about "leapfrog" developments in the Treasure Valley. These concerns have tended to focus on the adverse economic effects that will result from the necessary extension of services to outlying residential developments (sewer, fire, police, education, traffic congestion). The proposed development of the former Jeker property with its very high residential density embodies all of the worst features of poor property development. This transplantation of urban-style densities into a rural setting should not be permitted due to the financial burdens it will impose and the adverse environmental effects it will exact (degradation of the foothills environment, little preservation of open space?"
 
"Allowing development like Dry Creek Ranch is hypocritical to the stated objectives of foothills development in Boise. I strongly object."
 
"Please do your duty to protect our foothills from development. The entire ecosystem (including humans) of the Boise Valley will benefit from your foresight if you decide in favor of conservation regarding the Dry Creek Valley. Thank you."
 
" I am all for new development but lets be sensible when it comes to density. Careful planning now will not ruin our surroundings for future generations."
 
"This "proposed plan" is not the Boise/Eagle that true "Idahoans" want to live in. This seems like the politicians have just simply been bought and paid for by the Developers. Who's leading this county now? What we need are leaders that will act out the will of the people, not defy them. The people of Ada County will not stand for money hungry politicians; we stand for those that represent us."
 
"We believe the proposed density is NOT appropriate for rural areas. No further applications should be considered until the county comprehensive plan involving growth for all of Ada County is completed and approved."
 
"What a travesty on the landscape this development would be. It makes no sense in terms of land use, air pollution, traffic congestion, habitat restoration, or quality of life for inhabitants of North Boise. This is the mindset of Meridian development cast into the hills of Eagle. This is a very, very bad idea."
 
   


 

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